New York Times journalist Lulu Garcia-Navarro on Monday shut down Republican operative Matt Gorman’s praise of X CEO Elon Musk over his ambitions to drastically alter the federal government.

During a panel discussion on CNN, Gorman argued that Musk and his so-called “Department of Government Efficiency” would find ways to “make government work better” — and then added that he was “interested to see what they come up with.”

This prompted host Kasie Hunt to strike a skeptical note in response.

“OK, so here’s a question: Do you think Twitter works better since Elon Musk took it over?” she asked. “We have an example of how he takes an entity that he didn’t build himself… he bought it, and then he tried to dismantle it.”

Gorman then began to outline the case for the ways in which Musk had improved Twitter, which drew a visceral response from Garcia-Navarro.

“It’s bad!” she exclaimed.

“I completely disagree,” Gorman began to reply.

“It’s bad,” Garcia-Navarro insisted. “It doesn’t work well. It’s glitchy.”

She then suggested that Musk taking the approach he took with Twitter to the federal bureaucracy would end in disaster.

“Twitter is not the government,” she said. “The fact is that the reason the government is there is to work for people. Two unelected billionaires are going in… and actually take away people’s jobs and cutting the government. What, exactly, are their qualifications for this? I just don’t understand this.”